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Arkansas chosen for National Symphony Orchestra residency
By BECKY HARRIS Special to the Log Cabin

The National Symphony Orchestra will present five concerts and more than 150 special appearances in Arkansas during its 2009 residency between March 24 and March 31, 2009, it was announced Wednesday.

The announcement was made in the lobby of the Don Reynolds Performance Hall at the University of Central Arkansas. Welcoming those in attendance was a brass quintet composed of Professor Larry Jones and Bryan Light, trumpet; Jeff Jarvis, tuba; Denis(cq) Winter, trombone; and Lindsey Tevebaugh, French horn. They played the theme from Masterpiece Theatre, "Rondeau" by Mouret.

Present for the announcement, in addition to UCA president Lu Hardin, were Gov. Mike Beebe and U.S. Rep. Vic Snyder, D-Ark.

Dr. Rollin Potter, dean of the College of Fine Arts and Communication, said he was watching the National Symphony's performance at the Fourth of July concert in 2006, and a notice about the symphony's American Residencies came on the screen.

That began an 18-month odyssey that involved a partnership with the Arkansas Arts Council, led by Joy Pennington, director, who also spoke at the announcement. The invitation from UCA and the Arts Council was accepted in September.

The residency is funded by the Kennedy Center through a grant from the U.S. Department of Education, and will include six orchestral concerts in the state and dozens of educational and outreach activities.

Concerts will be in Jonesboro (March 24), Lily Peter Auditorium in Helena-West Helena (March 25-26); Conway (March 28); Little Rock (March 29); and Fayetteville (March 30). Susan Jarvis of Conway will coordinate the other musical activities.

The program for each concert will be conducted by Ivan Fischer, his first American Residency. They will perform Wagner's Overture to Die Meistersinger; a Serenade by Weiner; three dance episodes from On the Town by Leonard Bernstein; and Anton Dvorak's Symphony No. 7.

Becky Harris is president of the Conway Symphony Orchestra board.




Two more approved for liquor


Two more liquor licenses have been approved for Faulkner County restaurants.

La Huerta Mexican restaurant, 1052 Harrison Suite 8 in Conway, was approved for a private club permit this week, according to Kathy Gibson, document examiner for the Arkansas Alcoholic Beverage Control Board. She said the ABC received 888 signatures in support of the permit and no objections.

Julio Nunez, a partner in the business, said, "I'm excited. The people are more excited than me."

He said he believes he will receive the actual permit on Nov. 25 or 26, and he thinks he will be ready to start serving by that time. He plans to serve margaritas and beer. Gusano's Chicago-Style Pizzeria also received approval conditional upon health department approval for the restaurant to open.

Tim Chappell of Little Rock said recently the chain would open a location in Conway if it received its liquor license. The business has staked out 6,000 square feet at 2915 Dave Ward Drive Suites 6 and 7. The restaurant will serve Chicago-style pizza and beer, Chappell said in an earlier interview.

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Chappell did not immediately return a phone call for comment on Thursday.

Gibson said there were neither objections nor support for the Gusano's permit.

 

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User Comments:

OhMyGosh! -- 11:40 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Gee, I'm 42 years old, and I'm getting permission to order an alcoholic drink with my meal. I feel all grown up now!


ssssush! -- 11:53 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
if you gloat, they'll revoke the licenses somehow...besides, don't you know drinking leads to dancing? And dancing leads to eternal damnation?
Oh how dry I am -- 11:59 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
I can just hear them in church Sunday. All of us are going to hell!
-- 12:00 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Any word on that mega titty bar?
casual observer -- 12:23 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Man! it's starting to look like an actual 21st century town around here!
dry and happy -- 12:34 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Anybody that don't like Faulkner county dry, completely dry, should leave the county and if need be the state and even more the country. We voted it dry and it should be completely dry.
I've got em -- 12:34 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
the plans are in order. It is going to be located at the corner of Tyler and Salem.
prostitute house -- 13:12 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
any word on when the new prostitute house will open in
Conway?
Got outta town -- 13:17 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Theres gonna be a whole lotta resturant hopping in Conway now boy.
-- 13:25 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Sunday morning will dawn beautiful.I will go to church with no hangovers like the old days. I will pray and enjoy my time with the Lord.I will not hold judgement on those who do not go.My eye will only be on my savior.
-- 13:26 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
dry and happy....I doubt your were even in diapers when this county was voted dry.....I am not a drinker but stop and think how many police officers the Faulkner County residents are putting on the streets of Conway and Pulaski Counties with their liquor tax dollars. I have been a police officer in both dry and wet counties, the only difference I have seen is the number of accidents with people drinking on the way home from the liquor store in the next county.
to dry and happy -- 13:28 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
When did you vote it dry???

NEVER!! there has nevfer been a vote to make it dry MORON!!!


Hey Dry and Happy -- 13:32 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
guess what! this county is getting wetter all the time and there's not a thing you can do about it! so HA HA HA in your face! if you dont like it then you can be the one to leave the county and if need be the state and even more the country.

Cheers!


confused -- 14:22 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
No one ever mentions the Supper Club or the VFW where people actually go at nights and get drunk- not just have a drink or two with their meal. I think it is two totally different issues which people are confusing with one another.
Guess Who -- 14:29 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
You can thank Mike Huckabee for the change and increase of private club liquor permits. Thanks Mike, this Buds for you.
OhMyGosh! -- 15:24 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Yes, "Sunday morning will dawn beautifully". And guess what?
If I have a drink with my meal the night before, my Savior will not condemn me to hell for it.
lighten up -- 15:29 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
and put your ear bubs in and crank the music and you'll all have a better day
-- 15:29 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
buds
-- 16:26 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Is any work for a gigolo in Conway? I don't work past 11:30pm Saturday nite, I have church Sunday morning.
Hope -- 16:48 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Where are the statistics showing a decrease in addiction and negative results from alcohol in your dry county. I think more harm is caused by judgemental people who associate someone who enjoys a cold beer or a glass of wine as being someone who is less of a Christian. For such Bible oriented people who take the Word so very literally, where in the scriptures can we find such a rigid command of temperance.
-- 17:16 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
I think the Taliban had Afgahnistan dry. Oh, and Iran is dry. So those are a couple of options, if you really can't take the progress here.
jrs -- 17:33 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Yeh, the morons of Conway have spoken again.
-- 17:51 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Great!!! I love Gusano's. Don't have to drive to little rock for pizza and beer now. I like La Huerta's food too. I'll definitely be visiting both establishments!!
-- 17:57 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Didn't Jesus have a little wine with meals now and then?
Bible lover not thumper -- 18:01 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Their is nothing wrong with a little drink now and then,and we wont have any more drunks then we do now. You so called christians need to come down from your cross! If it bothers you that much,move to Van Buren County and start a cult.
T. Girl -- 18:41 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Didnt Jesus turn water into wine for people to drink? And dont some drink wine as part of their religion to represent the blood of the lord?? And doesnt the Bible say not to judge but to let God/Jesus be the judge???
MORE LOVE!
wow -- 18:42 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
i'm christian and by no means am i any better than anyone else nor perfect, but i know right from wrong & alcohol is wrong. how about we stand up for God here & take his side & not vote for alcohol. (& being a christian is not a "cult" sorry your sadly mistaken)
Jesus is wrong then too -- 18:57 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Jesus turned water into wine at a wedding, why? because all those drunks drank all the wine so they needed more, I'll bet it was pretty good too and prolly kinda strong. When I die I am going to drink a glass of wine with the best winemaker ever, Jesus.
T. Girl -- 19:08 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
AMEN!!!
Do you know why? -- 20:25 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Do you know why baptists dont have sex standing up?

They dont want God to think they are Dancing!


Best Part -- 20:40 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
The best part of this paper are the comments of all your folks. I am thoroughly entertained!
To Seein' is believin' -- 21:31 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
You have to be the first Sensible christian to post on this topic, and by far the most intelligent....but....

there are those god fearing folk that havew not actually "studied" the holy word, but yet have made it their Holy Crusade to condemn anyone who has enjoyed the rhines inspired *%@&! or two with a meal.

It's these simpletons, these non educated sheep that make it fun to antagonize and add fuel to the firey topic with hedonistic comments. There's not many things more fun than to laugh at the folly of a uneducated fool on blind crusade.

Knights Slaying Windmill Dragons, if you will from Don Quixote

And you watch, the simpltons I am speaking of will not understand a single sentence in this post. Thier Holy attacks will only serve to prove my point.


They sensored me? -- 21:34 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
not certain why they sensored my comment: the sentence should read:

rhines inspired (d r i n k)or two with a meal.


Conway Resident -- 21:42 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Guys, this is NOT a religious issue in my book. Look, if you want a wet county, do it the legal way.

The main reason I will not be visiting any of the restaurants is not because of some Christian teaching, but rather because of the method that was used to backdoor and skirt the will of the people of Faulkner County... THAT is why most people are upset.


Jesus is wrong then too.. -- 21:46 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
..went to Bible college, got a degree in Bible studies, including koine Greek, I have read the Bible a few times in my life. A dialgoue with you is impossible. You have an interpretation of the Bible too, and I bet it's wrong as mine.
You believe what you want, because you only believe what you hear told to you on Sunday at your church. Regardless of Jesus' purpose for turning water into wine, if alcohol was right or wrong or a sin, if it was a sin or wrong, he would not have made water into wine, period. But he did. He made water into wine. He could do it because he is God, He did because it's not wrong to do, He drank wine because it was the drink of his time, and he hung out with drinkers, all of his apostles drank wine, get the heck over it. Alcoholism and having a drink are two different things.
That is not a license to drink alcohol in excess, the Bible warns against that, but warns NOT against alcohol (wine) consumption.
And I hear about how wine in the Bible was like "grape juice". So I guess that is how Noah's daughters got him "drunk" so that they could have babies. Whatever dude, you go read the Bible.
So, I guess I am not a Christian because I can see the alcohol in and of itself, something that even Jesus made, and most likely partook of, is not wrong.
-- 21:49 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Seein'is believin stay out of my bar and I'll stay out of your church! If I want to go to church I'll go,If I want to get drunk and make an a.s.s. out of my self it's my business, as long as I don't break the law. If I do go to jail you're not paying my bond or fine,so shut the FU@K UP. You so called christians talk sh!t so much,but you never hear you *%@&! when someone in your church molests a child! You say the devil made him do it, or he would not do somthing like that, that child is lying on him. BULL SH!T !! Let's talk about some of your better people! Jim Jones, Jimmy Swagertt, Jim and Tammy Fay Baker just to name some. So don't sit there and type your holier then thou sh!t to me! And don't sit there and give me that drinking and driving sh1t, I don't drink and drive!!! Nor do most of the people on this blog. Oh by the way, Jesus loves you!!!!!
back door -- 21:50 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
there is no back door if can be done legally, gosh, hello the supper club, hello golf clubs, and the VFW. man, wake up.
If you read the Bible... -- 21:57 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
then you know that one of the first things the obedient Noah did was plant a vineyard...so he could have wine....which his daughters used one him to get him so drunk that he would committ incest... the perils of alchol? yes, and I guess in arkansas we probably dont need a reason for incest... but to use the bible or xianty to forbid alcohol, keep grasping at straws.
to Conway Resident -- 22:01 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Amen and pass the OJ. No one will enter the firey pit for having a beer with thier Tacos or Pizza but then again there might be a few extra DUI tickets around Conway. I lost friend to a drunk driver so please be careful!
to -- 21:49 Saturday -- 22:02 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
hey man lithium is your friend. You really need to take your medication every day just like your theropists said.
PROwetcounty -- 22:13 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
I think "dry and stay dry" needs to move to another county or possibly understand that a beer with a meal is actually quite nice... Its called separation of church and state.... We are not saying have kegs at the doors at the church!!
foreget beer! -- 22:19 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
i love MDMA!!!
to Bible reader -- 22:45 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
well, since you gone to College and all, I guess you know that drinkin and driving is ellegal, and Christ wont never do nothin that is ellagal, too. Anyone who dranks then drives is cometin a sin, and that there is wrong, even if Jesus made water into alcohol wine.
Jesus did do ileagle things -- 23:21 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
(please excuse my spelling, first and foremost)

and god encouraged others to do ileagle things as well

example: Ahab, Meshak, and Abendigo would not bow to Herod...an illeagle crime punishable by death.

example: Jesus' teaching went against the scribes and pharasee's also a crime of the time.


Question -- 23:30 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
Can someone tell me the year that the bible was peiced together?
-- 23:32 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
What's the big problem with having a beer with a meal?
answer to Question -- 23:36 Saturday, Nov. 17, 2007
goto http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm

Both Non-Christian and Christians should read this.

The Bible is a lot of things to a lot of people, but to Christians, especially, it is a source of inspiration and a guide to daily living.

To others, the Bible is a historical document and a source of controversy.

To others still, the Bible is a self-contradictory mish-mash of arcane rules and proscriptions, mostly relevant to long-dead cultures in far away places.

What is the truth in all of this?

The reality is that it is all true to an extent, and equally nonsensical at the same time. The Bible has meaning to all its readers, but it is important to consider that the meaning it has is informed by the prejudices the reader brings to it.

To really understand the Bible and what it intends to say to present generations, it is necessary to understand who wrote it and why, and the cultural context in which it was written. The story is an interesting one, in no small part because the story is so much messier than most of its advocates would have you to believe. And its very messiness is why it is a story rarely told in any completeness to Christian audiences.

"If the truth is that ugly -- which it is -- then we do have to be careful about the way that we tell the truth. But to somehow say that telling the truth should be avoided because people may respond badly to the truth seems bizarre to me." --Chuck Skoro, Deacon, St. Paul's Catholic Church


Ivan -- 0:07 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Please be careful when you leave these places drunk. Give street walkers a break.
LMAO!!! -- 0:10 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
You know first hand right IVAN!!!!
the lanatic -- 0:56 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
This is supposedly a dry county. It is one of the things I love about Faulkner county. I really don't understand why any liquor licenses are even considered here. There are plenty of other counties where people can go and pointlessly dull their senses while they eat.

I think all liquor licenses should be revoked immediately, including the Supper Club and VFW.

Sit at home and drink yourselves into oblivion if that is your desire. Don't bring your life-destroying habit into our lives. We don't need it.


Fab -- 0:57 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Just want to correct a few Bible errors here:

Yes, Noah planted a vineyard after getting off the ark and got drunk, but he had no daughters. It was Lot's daughters who got him drunk and slept with him to have babies after fleeing Sodom and Gomorrah. Never did the Bible condone these drunken episodes, it just recorded them.

Secondly, it was Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refusing to bow to king Nebuchadnezzar, not "Ahab, Meshak and Abendigo refusing to bow to Herod"

Thirdly, I don't read in the Bible where it forbids an alcoholic beverage with a meal, but Proverbs does paint alcohol in a negative light: 20:1"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." It does, however, acknowledge the medicinal value of alcohol. Proverbs 31:6 says: "Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish;".

Lastly, in the all three accounts of the Last Supper from Matthew, Mark, and Luke, the cup is never referred to as wine. It is called the "fruit of the vine". John doesn't get very specific in his account of the last supper. Everywhere in the Bible that wine is mentioned, it is simply called wine. This isn't called wine because it wasn't wine. The reason it couldn't have been wine is that this was a Passover Feast (Feast of Unleavened Bread). During the time of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, all yeast and agents of fermentation (which can be used in place of yeast as a leavening agent; think beer bread) had to be removed from Jewish households because they represented sinfulness or the unclean. Since wine is clearly fermented, it could not be present at a meal during that week of the feast. Also, how could Jesus present His blood as a sacrifice for sin tainted with a leavening agent which was symbolic of sin? Just something to think about.

By the way, Jesus loves all of you and God has a plan for each of your lives. Seek Him while He may be found!


cause -- 3:45 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
God can do whatever he wants to do, he doesn't need our understanding of what is right or wrong for approval.
Dear Lord, -- 3:56 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Thank you for these two new wet establishments! and thank you Lord for BEER!!!
To Fab -- 4:07 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Thanks for the correction!

growing up i always thought they were saying Shadrach, Meshach, and a billy goat....the whole goat thing always confused me.


Wrong -- 9:37 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Fab -

It is obvious that you are not Jewish. Wine (not grape juice) is part of the Seder meal. The reason leavened bread is not allowed is to mark the Exodus from Egypt. The Hebrews had to leave in such a hurry that they had no time to let the bread rise. The day before Passover, the house is searched for any bread and it is removed to commemorate this event. The regulation was not to EAT anything made with yeast.

"Fruit of the vine" is the translator's choice of words. Since grapes are only in season for a month or two (at most) how did these people have grape juice year round? If you leave grape juice out for an extended period of time, it will become fermented because of the yeast that is present in the AIR. It is a natural process that you can only prevent by refrigeration or pasteurization - both of which were not around in ancient times. The only possible answer is that they stored the grape juice by allowing it to become fermented into wine.


Wrong - continued -- 9:49 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Wine and beer have been part of civilization for thousands of years. Since they both contain small percentages of alcohol (less than 12% because the alcohol will kill the yeast that produces the alcohol) they were much safer to drink than water (which contained pathogens). If wine was not fermented then please explain Numbers 6:3 which refers to the vows of a Nazarite "he must abstain from wine and other fermented drink and must not drink vinegar made from wine or from other fermented drink." and Deuteronomy 14: "Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish." Deuteronomy 29:6 "You ate no bread and drank no wine or other fermented drink." Judges 13:4 "Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink and that you do not eat anything unclean" 1st Samuel 1:14 "and said to her, "How long will you keep on getting drunk? Get rid of your wine." Isaiah 28:7 "And these also stagger from wine and reel from beer"

1st Timothy 5:23 "Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses." Titus 2:3 "Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good."

For g-d's sake, people, take a biology class and use a little common sense. I hope that this settles the wine vs grape juice controversy of Faulkner County.


struck by lightning -- 10:05 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Please LORD, forgive these commenter's, they know what they do. Besides Killing is 'ell-legally' illegal 'EH. May the God of your Choice Bless you.
Wrong - continued - again -- 12:49 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
Further clarification on "yeast." There was no knowledge of yeast until the 19th century. Yeast were present in the atmosphere and ancient peoples had no knowledge of their existence. The reference to the use of unleavened bread refers to the "rising" of the bread after flour is mixed with water and the natural yeast in the air would have time to mix with the dough and then rise with sufficient time.

Probably the most significant observance related to Pesach (Passover) involves the removal of chametz (leaven) from our homes. This commemorates the fact that the Jews leaving Egypt were in a hurry, and did not have time to let their bread rise. It is also a symbolic way of removing the "puffiness" (arrogance, pride) from our souls.

Chametz includes anything made from the five major grains (wheat, rye, barley, oats and spelt) that has not been completely cooked within 18 minutes after coming into contact with water.


Fab -- 22:05 Sunday, Nov. 18, 2007
To "Wrong": I am not Jewish. I am a Gentile, but I've been grafted into the Vine by my Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ.

I never said wine wasn't fermented in the Bible. I said that the 3 Gospels that tell us about the Last Supper never mention wine in their accounts of it. Every other time wine is mentioned in Scripture it is called wine. It is specifically called the fruit of the vine in this instance only. I'm not saying that people didn't drink wine back then. I'm not saying that Jesus Himself never drank wine. I am saying that there were methods of preserving grape juice in the unfermented form in those days. Grape juice was often boiled down to form a concentrate, placed in a container and sunk in a well that kept it cool. When it was taken out to drink, it was mixed with water to bring it back to the original strength of grape juice, then consumed. It is my belief that this is or fresh squeezed grape juice is what was used at the Last Supper. Why would the writers go out of their way to call it the "fruit of the vine" here but call wine "wine" everywhere else? Could it be that the pure Son of God could not be considered pure with a leavening agent in His blood? Could it be that He fulfilled the law completely and to the letter by not having yeast at the Passover? Remember, he was crucified the next day and we're told that He presented Himself as a pure sacrifice. The whole passover meal in the Old Testament pointed to Jesus in the New Testament. The lamb was to be spotless, Jesus was the pure, spotless Lamb of God. None of its bones were to be broken, and none of Jesus's bones were broken. The bread was made without yeast, representing His purity as the "Bread of Life". The lamb's blood was put on the doorposts of their homes and they were "passed over" by the Lord when He destroyed the first-born of Egypt. When the blood of Jesus is applied to our lives, we are "passed over" by the Lord for judgment for our sins, that is we escape judgment for our sins through His cleansing sacrifice. The bitter herbs represent the bitter suffering of our Savior. This whole feast points to Jesus.

I agree with your statements about water safety vs. the safety of wine. I agree that alcohol is and has been a part of society from ancient times until the present day.

I disagree, however with your statements concerning yeast. "The yeast species Saccharomyces cerevisiae has been used in baking and fermenting alcoholic beverages for thousands of years." Also, "Yeast microbes are probably one of the earliest domesticated organisms. People have used yeast for fermentation and baking throughout history. Archaeologists digging in Egyptian ruins found early grinding stones and baking chambers for yeasted bread, as well as drawings of 4,000-year-old bakeries and breweries." And, "Wine is produced by fermenting crushed grapes using various types of yeast which consume the sugars found in the grapes and convert them into alcohol. Various varieties of grapes and strains of yeasts are used depending on the types of wine produced." These statements are quoted from Wikipedia.

If Orthodox Jews were supposed to have their homes emptied of ALL yeast, why would that not include drinks containing yeast? Exodus doesn't mention wine as a part of the passover meal, so how did it become a part? Was it added later? If so, is it really appropriate to add it when Moses didn't mention it? Just wondering.


WWJD -- 10:19 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
Enjoy a glass of cabernet, of course.
new reader -- 11:06 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
Thank you, Fab - I appreciate your conveyance of truth and facts. Should be interesting, even if not convincing, to those whom you address. I know they tell us to take Wikipedia in small dosages, but I have read these similar facts in several other sources.

To Jesus is Wrong, too" - you can go to six Bible schools and read a thousand Bibles and you still may not get the point.

p. S. Mr. Webmaster: There is at least one Saturday comment missing, making it hard to see what someone is referring to. No bad words and no incriminations, as I recall, so what happened to "Seeing is Believing"??


wrong - again - response -- 11:45 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
Fab -

No one is denying the existence of yeast at that time. Ancient Hebrews just knew that when you mixed water with flour and let it sit, it would rise. They also knew that if you let grape juice sit, it would ferment into wine. They had no idea about aerobic respiration and yeast's involvement in the process.

Go back and read my post about chametz - it only refers to grain products NOT fruits. It has nothing to do with yeast but rather with the haste with which the Hebrews had to depart.

Wine has always been a part of Pesach.

Pesach has nothing to do with Christianity - it is a JEWISH observance. It is an insult to Judaism that you are trying to corrupt this holy celebration by turning it into a Christian ceremony.

Please don't try to lecture me about my religion that is several thousand years older than yours.


-- 13:34 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
Regardless of whether or not fermented wine was/is used in the Passover Meal, I agree with 'Fab' in the fact that throughout the Bible--Old and New Testament--yeast is used repetitively as a symbol for sin. The cup at the Last Supper was representative of the blood of Jesus, which had to be completely pure in order for His sacrifice to be acceptable to the Lord. For this reason alone I don't believe that the cup Jesus referred to as His Blood during the Last Supper/Passover meal contained fermented wine.
Wrong says - Who asked you? -- 14:54 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
So Jews have been wrong for 3000 years? Maybe you'd like to call the rabbis in Little Rock and let them know they've been doing things all wrong.
wrong again -- 14:55 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
Please cite specific bible verses which state that yeast is a symbol of sin.
wrong again - again -- 15:01 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
"From wherever you live, bring two loaves made of two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour, baked with yeast, as a wave offering of firstfruits to the LORD."

Leviticus 23:17

Why would they make an offering of bread WITH yeast to g-d if it was symbolic of sin?


Wondering -- 19:00 Monday, Nov. 19, 2007
When was the vote to make Faulkner county dry. The grandfather of my best friend growing was the biggest bootlegger in Faulkner county in the 40's and 50's, made him a very rich man. People wake up people have always drank in Faulkner county. If no one in Faulkner county wants drinking how come these resturants are so crowded. There are studies showing the DWI accidents involving motorist driving from wet counties to DRY counties. I agree that drinking and driving is horrible but people have to relize that is a very small percentage. Drinking in excess is wrong but a drink with your meal is fine.
Speaking into deaf ears -- 1:47 Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2007
Wondering: The dry vote was 1943. It did us absolutely NO HARM and did not prevent Conway from progress. Yes, of COURSE there were bootleggers. Always have been and absolutely NO ONE denies that. That doesn't make it a good thing, though. People spent the rent money on liquor back then, too.

People have filled in the blanks here and assumed that those who are anti-liquor are ignorant about liquor history. You can get all sorts of "studies" to demonstrate anything you want to say. But the fact that DWI accident drivers are going from wet counties to dry only says that people will go to great lengths to do possible harm to themselves and others. It doesn't mean that all dry counties should go wet to enable those drivers to do that, or to "get into the 21st century," as someone foolishly said as if drinking makes for progress. Driving to Lake Liquor to buy a bottle of wine or a six pack of beer is one thing - drinking it on the way home or having drinks before you left home is another matter.

Someone asked how the restaurants can be doing something "illegally legal." You should be able to get a copy of the law and see how that happens.

Once this dog has been let in the house, it will take up residence and eventually bite the one who fed it. We can look forward to package stores, more college drinking, more 22-year-old alcoholics and abundant litter. This is not scare-tactic language. It is the truth that no one wants to hear.


tkmc -- 15:26 Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2007
what will be, will be. drink or not to drink? we all have our own views and beliefs so leave it alone and do what you think is best for you. everyone one will have a price to pay if we drink to much or eat to much, what ever the case may be.
to seein is believe"n -- 17:06 Tuesday, Nov. 27, 2007
Are you satan?
do not -- 17:29 Tuesday, Nov. 27, 2007
be a drunkard! I believe thats what it says. Drink wine, be merry, do not be a drunkard
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