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Open carry bill stalls

Posted: February 26, 2013 - 2:37pm

LITTLE ROCK — A bill to allow Arkansans with concealed handgun permits to carry their weapons openly stalled in a House committee Tuesday.

House Bill 1408 by Rep. Sue Scott, R-Rogers, received 9 votes, two votes short of an endorsement by the 20-member House Judiciary Committee. Eight members voted against it.

The committee rejected the bill after approving an amendment that would limit open carry to rural, unincorporated areas.

Col. Stan Witt, the state police director, spoke against the measure.

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357 02/26/13 - 02:41 pm
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Sounds like the democrats had

Sounds like the democrats had their Witt's about them.

reader
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reader 02/26/13 - 02:45 pm
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Reaganesque
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Reaganesque 02/26/13 - 04:07 pm
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Well.............

Dumber than dumb..... read

BuzzBy
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BuzzBy 02/26/13 - 02:49 pm
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WHAT

Unpublished

So if you have a CCP they are serious about the 1st C part
I thought you could strap on one and carry openly anyway. The law was you couldn't carry a concealed weapon without a license but you could walk about with gun if you so chose.

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endorphine44 02/26/13 - 03:35 pm
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BuzzBy, there are 3

BuzzBy, there are 3 exceptions for carrying a handgun without a permit in AR.
1) you're on a journey (journey isn't defined in state law, so good luck with that one)
2) you're the proprietor of a business and acting in to course of normal business. You can carry to protect your business and it's assets.
3) On your way too/from a shooting event or hunting

Otherwise you must have a CHL issued by the State Police or you'll be charged with the offense of carrying a weapon.

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Igor Rabinowitz 02/26/13 - 03:57 pm
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Rule of thumb

A "journey" is covered by one's being on vacation.

You got a gun, or a knife over 3.5", you're on a vacation is what you tell them if you get pulled over.

I'm not joking.

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arkansasobserver 02/26/13 - 05:00 pm
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Not exactly,

I remember from my LEO days that the actual wording is "I am on a journey."

From the ASP fact sheet on gun law:
“(c) It is a defense to a prosecution under this section that at the time of the act of carrying a weapon:

(4) The person is carrying a weapon when upon a journey, unless the journey is through a commercial airport when presenting at the security checkpoint in the airport or is in the person's checked baggage and is not a lawfully declared weapon; (a journey is defined as traveling beyond your circle of neighbors and general acquaintances our(sic) outside a person’s normal travel routine"

To clarify:
"Though the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of Arkansas (AG McDaniel) refused to precisely define the meaning of a journey, it seems his subordinates at the Arkansas State Police have kindly provided all of Arkansas’s citizens with a meaningful description of a journey.

According to the above statement, the act of openly carrying (or the concealing) of a handgun is completely free from prosecution unless a prosecutor can prove:

1.You are not still within your circle of neighbors, and
2.You are not beyond your circle of acquaintances, or
3.You are not outside your normal travel routine."

So it seems that under the law, Open Carry is legal if you meet the requirements above.

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i_wonder 02/26/13 - 05:49 pm
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Igor Rabinowitz
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Igor Rabinowitz 02/26/13 - 02:54 pm
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CSI Conway

So I guess,

The open carry law was...

*dons sunglasses*

...shot down

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

ARVoiceofLogic
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ARVoiceofLogic 02/26/13 - 03:01 pm
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