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Apartment shooting leaves tenants with questions

Posted: March 4, 2013 - 11:23am
  SUBMITTED PHOTO/STACEY DAWN
SUBMITTED PHOTO/STACEY DAWN

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A shooting incident involving police officers that occurred Sunday afternoon outside a Conway apartment complex has left four Conway Police Department officers on emergency leave and several onlookers with questions.

About 2 p.m. Sunday, Conway police were dispatched to Plaza Pointe Apartments at 2400 Market Plaza Drive after a caller reported a possible stabbing at the apartment complex.

A tenant and witness to the incident reported observing a male suspect standing in the breezeway of building 1, “holding a knife and waving it around.”

The woman said she heard the police command the suspect to put the knife down, but he didn’t, and instead charged an officer.

“Then they shot him. I don’t remember how many, but I think more than one of them fired several shots. I’d say six or more shots, at least,” the woman said.

Officials later said the incident stemmed from an altercation between roommates, during which time one of the men superficially stabbed the other.

When officers arrived at the scene, they encountered the suspect, reportedly a white, 30-year-old male, coming out of the apartment with a knife in hand.

The man was commanded several times to put the knife down and was tased when he refused.

CPD officials said the suspect still didn’t drop the knife, and instead, charged an officer.

An unknown number of officers fired shots, and according to patient information read my MEMS over the police scanner, the suspect sustained four gunshot wounds to his back and arms, as well as a “sucking chest wound.”

He was transported via air ambulance to Baptist Health in Little Rock.

Inside of the apartments,tenants were enjoying a typical Sunday afternoon. Stacey Dawn, a Conway resident, said her mother, whose name was withheld, was one of those tenants.

Dawn said she is “extremely upset” about the incident and doesn’t know why so many lives “were put in jeopardy.”

According to Dawn, two bullets from the officers’ guns entered a window at the front of her mother’s ground floor building.

At the time of the incident, she said, her mother was sitting in a chair, only a few feet from the window.

“A bullet missed my mother’s head by mere inches,” Dawn said.

The bullet then passed through a flower arrangement on her dining room table before lodging in the woman’s front door.

Dawn described later “picking shards of glass” from her mother’s hair.

Another four rounds entered a neighboring apartment, but those tenants were not at home at the time, according to Dawn.

Dawn said she didn’t witness the event, but she had spoken with several others at the scene who had. Photos she snapped from behind the crime scene tape reveal a smattering of evidence markers in the grass amid the suspect’s clothes and shoes and medical equipment.

Dawn claimed at least 15 of those markers were bullet casings.

“Excessive, absolutely,” Dawn said. “Eight to 10 officers shooting at one man with a knife, towards a public building.”

Dawn said Sunday night her mother was OK, but “very shaken.”

LaTresha Woodruff, public information officer with the department, said the roommate and stabbing victim had not sustained substantial wounds.

There is no word from officials yet on the circumstances surrounding the altercation between roommates or what led a knife-wielding suspect to charge several armed officers.

The suspect’s name has not been released and his condition is currently unknown.

“I’m not trying to call out the actions of (the police officers),” Dawn said. “I just need some answers as to why it went down the way it did.”

More information coming.

(Megan Reynolds is a staff writer and can be reached by phone at 501-505-1277. To comment on this story and others, visit www.thecabin.net.)

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sonicstring
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sonicstring 03/04/13 - 11:41 am
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Bless they hearts

I understand it is upsetting to say the least, having bullets come smashing through your window. Scary no doubt. Glad the innocents folks did not get hurt,However I would think that the "way it went down" was the probably the best action that could be taken. You have a violent person with a knife, the tazer did not take him down and he continued to threaten/assault law enforcement officers. The next option is to shoot the bloke or hit him on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and holler NO !
As long as the guy was still active then everyone in the area was in danger. Based on the story points we have at this time I feel the police took the proper steps. Other methods, such batons and mace might have worked if they had been given that option. Basic training teaches you that to survive a knife attack the best solution is to stay out of range of the knife. If the tazer did not stop this guy I dont think chemical irritants would have either. Not really clear on why he was shot in the back if he was coming at the police with a knife though. You can have a "sucking chest" wound on the the back by the way, just impropper to call it a chest wound. lol.

David
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David 03/04/13 - 12:47 pm
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tased?

How many officers, how many tasers, how much chemical irritant, how many knives ("That's not a knife!" said Mr. Dundee) and how many guns went into this stew? And I forgot about those wicked side-handle batons. Do law enforcement officers still get to use them? The reported events appear to present an excellent opportunity for CPD to review their policies on firearms training and use. Maybe there is even an opportunity to figure out why the panic button got pushed.

Igor Rabinowitz
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Igor Rabinowitz 03/04/13 - 01:02 pm
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A knife

If you have even a rough idea what you're doing, and you're within 21 feet of an officer with a knife in your hand (is the accepted standard, called "the 21 foot rule," seriously) you can kill that cop before s/he gets a gun out and brings it to bear.

You can practice this with stationary targets. It really is impressive how quick you can move and the damage inside 21 feet.

(I don't know what it's not 22 feet, 18 feet, whatever, I expect some expensive study came up with that measure.)

Realize also, the thing about a knife is that it keeps coming back for more. Unlike a bullet which goes by and is done, a slashing back-and-forth can disembowel with one "lucky" stroke, and only a part of a stroke is needed to disable someone. So a bullet, you duck that bullet, that's done. But a knife, you duck that slash, don't worry, another's coming right back.

Most of us think of knives as lethal only when stabbing. But going back to the Roman legions, the figured out that slashing is far more effective than stabbing, and much easier to have some impact (as it were) on a target than a stab.

Which is to say the old "knife to a gunfight," while LOL, isn't exactly true. In fact in close quarters a knife can do a lot more damage in a lot less time than a gun.

Now add to that someone who's possibly drug addled or otherwise has something going on where lights and shouting don't seem to have an impact, then he charges .... that's a crazy-dangerous situation.

Combat is not like what's on television. Combat is nano-moments that if you try to think through you'll be the one they have the funeral for.

I'm wearing a "I'm representing public safety" uniform and a guy's charging me with a knife, I'm going to keep pulling a trigger until dude's done charging. It ain't pretty, but few things in life -- when it's time for such decisions -- are.

i_wonder
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i_wonder 03/04/13 - 01:10 pm
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oh please

Unpublished

If knives are so dangerous, you would think they'd put them on the end of a gun...but that never happens.

crypted quill
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crypted quill 03/04/13 - 02:02 pm
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Holy Cow! Too many ninja

Holy Cow!
Too many ninja movies, 'Eh?

Now knives are more dangerous than guns.
Here's an idea -- the CPD should issue knives only and save the cost of ammo?

Reaganesque
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Reaganesque 03/04/13 - 02:04 pm
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Well............

iggi, just making you aware you are a boring individual. Sorry staff, I know he's your darling......

Zheking
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Zheking 03/04/13 - 02:11 pm
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Last time I checked knives

Last time I checked knives don't slash through kevlar and body armor....

sonicstring
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sonicstring 03/05/13 - 07:18 am
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Actually

Sharp pointy thingymajigs will pierce a vest easier than bullets will in certain situations. I recall once a CEO of a vest company was so proud and sure of the quality of his companies vest that he handed his assistant an ice pick and told him to use it. The pick went straight through and the proud owner died. Now that was in the earlier days so maybe the newer ones are more resistant. While a vest may protect their abdomen and back areas lets not forget the face, throat and arms..each contain main arteries and other body parts that most folks would just as soon not have cut. The bad guy went down. No innocents were harmed. Had Momma been stabbed by this looney most of y'all would be screaming why didnt they shoot the guy.

truthbetold
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truthbetold 03/05/13 - 12:06 pm
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sorry...

I missed were police were wearing kevlar and body armor over their heads, knecks, and legs cause one good slash to the right artery can kill you in any of those places.

notthisboy
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notthisboy 03/04/13 - 01:44 pm
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just my observation

If the police department had someone with the understanding of the law enforcement profession as a PIO rather than a former member of the press we could get clear information. Once a reporter always a reporter.

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