Morris urges government to keep ‘Hands Off My Health Care’

DICK Morris' comment that the movement for health care reform is a "redistribution of health" is totally correct, but not in the way he meant. it is an effort to get it to those who do not have it. what a horrible notion. the apparent double standard by these supposed pro-life people should be obvious to even a child.

the real issue though is the outright lies perpetuated by these people. these are the "death panel" people for those who don't know. their new lie? the health care reform movement is "essentially an effort to repeal Medicare." these are the words of DICK Morris. it is a lie pure and simple. also, let us not forget the source of these American's for Prosperity. they are a CORPORATE ASTROTURF "movement" associated with another DICK. DICK Armey, a DC Lobbyist who represents the health care industry. their leader Tim Phillips is a known long time advocate of corporate interests. why would these people spend a $1M a day to fight reform unless it was going to cost them money? it does not take much deduction to realize that means regular folk will not be getting raped to the degree they are presently!

final thought; if you are happy with your health insurance you are not using it!

Obviously this is one of those topics that creates some heated debate. Just look at the preceeding two posts to confirm that. I think we can all agree that no system is perfect. Our current system of health care in this country is based on our free-market capitalist system; it works but it isn't perfect and could be better.
I agree that we do need health care reform, but what Congress is trying to put together now is to much. Our economy is at a very weak point, our national debt is skyrocketing, and our banking system still has a way to go before being fully healthy. Before we embark on new programs that will add billions, if not trillions, to our national debt, let's fix our existing issues first.
I personally like less federal involvement, but I'm willing to consent to the fact that government does need to step in an put better controls in place to regulate the medical insurance industry.

Can we please stop using names like "BOZO" and "traitor" to describe our Presidents and stop the personal attacks against even local people whose political perspective differs from our own? That's the whole reason this health care debate is not a debate about issues but one about people and parties. We can't have a sensible discussion about the issues with health care because people are too pissed off to talk rationally to one another. C'mon let's grow up out of Junior High and act like grown people. Good grief....

BTW, thanks to msmith254 for talking about issues instead of attacking people.

Greg

There is a need for reform. Pre-existing conditions coverage denial, higher premiums on women, and frivolous claim denial needs to end. Insurance companies have enough revenue to spend over $263 millions fighting the legislation, then they should have enough money to pay the claims. Just think of how many medical claims could have been paid for with that kind of money. Anyone who has ever had a claim denied over silliness, knows there need to be reform. I'm tired of all politicians from Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Michael Steele, Sarah Palin and all. I'm tired of the political party bickering and fighting. Partisan politics is ruining this country. There's just too much money involved. Too many our elected official are being swayed by their campaign contributions. Our politicians may not be receiving an envelope of money as a bribe for votes, but millions in campaign contributions has the same effect.

Arkansasobserver, you said, to quote you exactly, "Read carefully... I did not call Mr. Obama a name... only using an adjective to describe him accurately." Your original statement was, "B. Obama is a traitor." The sentence construction there is Subject Noun, linking verb, article, predicate noun. The function of a predicate noun is to rename the subject it follows. Therefore, you did call Mr. Obama a name, the name of traitor. The phrases "to American values, to American fairness, to the American military and to each American individually" are prepositional phrases used as adjectives, but they modify the predicate noun they follow, not the subject of the sentence.

Two physicians boarded a flight out of Seattle. One sat in the window seat, the other sat in the middle seat. Just before takeoff, an attorney got on and took the aisle seat next to the two physicians.

The attorney kicked off his shoes, wiggled his toes and was settling in when the physician in the window seat said," I think I'll get up and get a coke."

"No problem," said the attorney, "I'll get it for you."

While he was gone, one of the physicians picked up the attorney's shoe and spat in it.

When he returned with the coke, the other physician said, "That looks good, I think I'll have one too."

Again, the attorney obligingly went to fetch it and while he was gone, the other physician picked up the other shoe and spat in it. The attorney returned and they all sat back and enjoyed the flight. As the plane was landing, the attorney slipped his feet into his shoes and knew immediately what had happened.

"How long must this go on?" he asked. "This fighting between our professions? This hatred? This animosity? This spitting in shoes and peeing in cokes?"

"Seniors lived most of their lives in an America where individual independence and freedom were cherished, and paid for with the lives of veterans. They love, appreciate and respect the constitution. This is in stark contrast with the Socialistic and big government nanny-state we live with now with the rise of the Liberal party."

HOGWASH!

You should thank God! for (your dirty word) Liberals...

"Before one can say why one is a liberal, one can hardly avoid trying to say what a liberal is. In the semantic warfare of our age, world like "liberalism" and "conservatism" have come almost to acknowledge fashions rather than to express meanings. Thus a few years back even some conservatives began to call themselves liberals - now even some liberals are beginning to call themselves conservatives.

But, if one cannot at first say what the difference between liberalism and conservatism is, one can at least say what it isn't. Many of the current attempts at the identification of species, I regret to say, seem to me misleading or erroneous.

Thus we are told that the difference between liberal and conservative is that the liberal believes in the perfectibility of man while the conservative has a conviction of human limitation and original sin. Yet no one has preached to this generation more effectively of the reality of human imperfection than the liberal (in politics, at least.) Reinhold Niebuhr, while it was Andrew Carnegie, a conservative, who used to say of man that there was no "conceivable end to his march to perfection." And it would be hard to argue for example that the words of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the conservative, show a greater sense of the frailty of human striving or the tragedy of the human condition than those of the liberal Adlai E. Stevenson.

Similarly, it is difficult to believe that the attitude toward the role of the state. Thus the conservatives Alexander Hamilton and John Quincy Adams and the liberal Franklin D. Roosevelt agreed in advocating government direction of the economy, while the liberal Thomas Jefferson and the conservative Herbert Hoover agreed in wishing to limit the power of the state.

Nor does the distinction lie in the question of civil freedom. Some liberals have been 'majoritarians' with a limited concern for the rights of minorities; some conservatives have been valiant defenders of the liberties of conscience and expression. Nor does it even really lie in the question of private property. While conservatives have been the more vigilant champions of corporate property, liberals have perhaps stood more consistently for the rights of property in John Locke's original sense of a product of nature with which man mixes his labor."

Conservative vs. Liberal
March 4, 1956

I agree with krysd26 - especially the last statement. No, I haven't read the bill. I don't have time to wade through 2000 pages and connect all the dots. One of my main thoughts on the bill is that it should be pared down and run piecemeal. Let's pass a piece of it at a time so we can understand what we are doing.

Greg