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Let's talk about religion and schools.

 

Or, more precisely, let's talk about the making of a story about youth ministers being told not to visit children in their ministries during school lunch.

 

There are a lot of people talking about the role of the newspaper and the role of the school district in blog posts and social media sites. That includes this Facebook status update by Jeff Standridge, who is a source in the story. (I've attached a screen shot of it to this post.) 

 

He is not the only person concerned about the situation or the reporting on it, but I cannot respond on his Facebook, so I'm addressing as many issues as possible here, in my own blog.

 

Here's the lowdown.

 

On Tuesday night, Courtney Spradlin, a fellow reporter, and I discovered though online sources that youth ministers and superintendent Greg Murry planned a meeting at 10 a.m. Wednesday.

 

I always care what is happening at any of the schools. I've attended parent-teacher meetings. I've repeatedly sent messages to parents asking for comments too. And, as a reporter, I'm never "off." So, I immediately texted Dr. Murry to ask if I could go to the meeting, which I thought might be about school prayer.

 

"It is not an open meeting," Dr. Murry wrote.

 

I asked why not make it open, but he didn't reply. At 9:30 a.m. Wednesday, I called Dr. Murry and he explained the meeting is not open to the press and that it was about what youth ministers could do on campuses. He said he wouldn't be talking about the meeting but suggested ministers might.

 

The meeting held at 10 a.m. Tuesday was not an open meeting, by that I mean it was not open to the press. The public/press was not invited. No matter what Mr. Standridge or others say, when a reporter asks to go and is told "no" then the meeting is "closed."

 

The closed meeting did not violate FOI because elected officials did not attend. Essentially, this was a private meeting between private individuals and Dr. Murry, who also is not an elected official.

 

My dander isn't particularly riled by this meeting being closed. Here's why: Sometimes officials (not elected) need to talk to parents or individuals without the limelight.  Once I know what to ask, Dr. Murry has always been forthright. And, I believed the ministers, including Mr. Standridge in our story, would say what happened in the meeting.

 

Besides the meeting, others are questioning terms used in the story, like the word "bar." The term bar, used in the headline for space considerations, is not a poor choice. Defined, it means "to forbid (an activity)" or "to prevent or forbid the entrance or movement of," according to my lovely desktop dictionary.  For example, some people are now "prevented" from visiting schoolchildren during lunch.

 

One other concern is about details left out of stories. It's difficult to have every voice in a news story. We try to narrow down issues to what we think people care about the most. In this case, we spoke with school officials, ministers, the foundation's attorney and attempted to contact parents before we ever wrote a word. We didn't post everything we had right away because we wanted to be right and fair. 

 

Honestly, I'm surprised Mr. Standridge would write such a negative post about the story. The reporter interviewed Mr. Standridge and Director Anderson Wilkens, and then provided Wilkens with their quotes that she planned to use. It was our understanding both Wilkens and Standridge would look at the quotes. In any event, Mr. Wilkens knew exactly what would be in the article. 

 

And, important facts were included in the story. Readers can tell by the quotes that Conway K-Life supports the school district. In fact, the reporter used the quote by Wilkins that what the school is doing is "in the best interest of the students and families, and within the legal constraints that a public school is up against."

 

We did our best to talk to as many people involved as possible and give as many people a voice. We had to cut some because this issue could become book length. And, I'm sure, there will be follow-up stories.

 

I realize that no one will be satisfied with this blog. Reporters are easy to blame, even when no one points out a specific incorrect fact. But really, the story isn't about us. And, it's not about Mr. Standridge either. 

 

Out of everyone with whom we spoke, I really think Dr. Murry summed up what's going on at the district the best: 

 

“We certainly want the community to know that we are wanting to make sure that whatever activities that are allowed at the school are legal for us to do and that’s really what all this is about,” Murry said. “We’re not trying to kick anybody out of the school, or an organization out of the school. Whatever we do, we have to make sure we are on the correct side of the law.”

 

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Igor Rabinowitz
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Igor Rabinowitz 01/18/13 - 01:59 pm
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That ol' Internets

One thing you can ever be sure of: Whatever you're doing, someone on teh Internets knows how to do it better than you.

Reporting in the era of social media (micro blogging, etc) has got to be a tough racket. Just be aware for all the endlessly heaped criticism, any number of us support y'all's efforts.

And our counting the hours until teh Internets temper tantrum becomes passe.

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Joe Mosby 01/18/13 - 02:36 pm
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Sensitivity

For ages, public schools have been a touchy topic because they involve our kids and our tax money. Add religion to the mix, and you really have a hot potato. There is not an answer to this new wrangle except for everyone to cool it.

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Joe Mosby 01/18/13 - 02:36 pm
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Sensitivity

For ages, public schools have been a touchy topic because they involve our kids and our tax money. Add religion to the mix, and you really have a hot potato. There is not an answer to this new wrangle except for everyone to cool it.

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i_wonder 01/18/13 - 03:09 pm
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I missed it

Unpublished

"Honestly, I'm surprised Mr. Standridge would write such a negative post about the story."

What was the negative comment?
Was it the first sentence?

"That the reporter chose not to post..."

If so....that's a negative post?

PEARList
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PEARList 01/18/13 - 04:01 pm
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Obtuse

Willful ignorance..."that's a negative post?"

let me break it down for you. I typed slow. Based on the articles I've read, and a reading of the Facebook post, it's pretty clear what they're referring to as being "negative".

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"The meeting yesterday was not a 'Closed Meeting'." -Standridge

Reporters said they weren't allowed in, but Standridge claims it was not a closed meeting. If it's not open, then what is it? Standridge is saying that the use of the phrase "closed meeting" is inaccurate, when it isn't. HIS statement is inaccurate, and he knows this. This makes him a liar, by definition.
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"Pray that parents, politicians, and other interested parties will get the facts before they make public comments and posts in the social media." -Standridge

Based on his dishonest criticism I pointed out above, this is reference clearly includes the reporters, who he seems to think didn't have the "facts" (although he offers nothing that would indicate such). We've already seen that he's a liar and shouldn't be trusted about what is and is not a fact.
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"Refrain from assuming that Dr. Murry or the administration are taking steps to 'ban' or 'bar' religious groups from the campus. That is simply not the case." -Standridge

Really? Well maybe not the whole group all the time, but they certainly are banned from coming to lunch, for the time being at least. I would say that a ban, even if temporary, constitutes "steps to 'ban' or 'bar'. Again, he's using the language of the reporters, in quotes, to imply that they were inaccurate. And again, he knows this is not the case. Liar. He's trying to simply state emphatically that there is no "ban", when there is. Common for someone who's on the losing side of an argument: just yell your incorrect points louder than anyone else and some folks will be convinced.

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Sooooo this guy, who knowingly posts inaccurate things to criticize the reporters, is who we want hanging out with our kids during their down time at school? Someone who has to lie about reporters to try to discredit them, when the reporters are just the messengers? Is this really the example we want?

I think not.

i_wonder
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i_wonder 01/18/13 - 04:04 pm
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really??

Unpublished

If that's a negative post towards reporters, someone needs to quit their day-job.

Just sayin'.

By facebook standards, that's a tame rant for sure.

But, I'm just obtuse like that.

ARVoiceofLogic
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ARVoiceofLogic 01/18/13 - 04:14 pm
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Obtuse?

I pegged you at isosceles.

i_wonder
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i_wonder 01/18/13 - 04:15 pm
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well

Unpublished

Between you and me, you're the acute one.

ARVoiceofLogic
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ARVoiceofLogic 01/18/13 - 04:16 pm
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Math jokes

are exponentially fun.

DJB1971
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DJB1971 01/18/13 - 04:18 pm
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Sometimes...

...I just can't tell the difference between you two.

But, then again, I'm not really adding anything to the conversation.

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