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Appropriate response to officer-involved violence

Megan and I are scheduled to meet with Conway Police Chief AJ Gary soon, and I hope we have the opportunity to ask about the department's use of force policy.

 

After some looking in at other departments and general police training, and weighing that with the preliminary information given to the public by the police department, it seems officers were aligning with what's called a use of force continuum.

There are a lot of graphs showing appropriate response with terms that vary between agencies.

I know it's touchy to get into police tactics. We don't want to produce a guide with photos of how to get around an officer's training, but there's a militant system of responses to threatening situations we need to recognize exists.

And it's this system that saves people and police officers, and it tells a person when he or she should kill another person.

 

That thing our favorite poster said earlier about the 21 feet rule - that's a thing.

 

In training, officers are taught a threatening subject wielding a knife is lethal within 21 feet.

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BuzzBy
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BuzzBy 03/04/13 - 02:54 pm
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BANG

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Stop in the name of the law
Bang
Bang
Clear case of resisting arrest
CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!

Zheking
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Zheking 03/04/13 - 03:49 pm
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I'll be very interested to

I'll be very interested to see why they didn't have 1 - 2 officers holding security on the guy guns drawn and SIGHTED IN ready to stop him with accurately placed shots if needed versus 4 cops unloading (and the tactic they train for/use in a situation like this) and also why the tazer was also only employed once, when it seems like according to the details released, it appears there was time to try more than once.

Looking forward to the interview Court/Meg.

arkansasobserver
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arkansasobserver 03/04/13 - 04:11 pm
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Very good questions

I also look forward to hearing from the Chief.

crypted quill
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crypted quill 03/04/13 - 03:43 pm
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So,"In training, officers

So,

"In training, officers are taught a threatening subject wielding a knife is lethal within 21 feet."

It's training for "realistic understanding of the distance"...the time that it takes for an officer to react by drawing and firing two rounds when a suspect charges him with a knife.'

So, the...

"drawing and firing two rounds"

rule/training still applies even when you have a gun pulled on the suspect -- finger on trigger?

I don't think so!

i_wonder
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i_wonder 03/04/13 - 03:50 pm
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well

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I, for one, am glad the knife-wielding, taser-resisting guy is in another county now.

Thanks CPD.

ucantbserious
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ucantbserious 03/04/13 - 04:17 pm
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Hmm

I didn't see a level on the chart for when to deploy the .50 caliber rifle. Can someone from the county chime in on when best to use that?

Let me guess. Middle of the night, in someone's yard, and when they're drunk?

i_wonder
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i_wonder 03/04/13 - 04:24 pm
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yesss

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"Middle of the night, in someone's yard, and when they're drunk?"

At the end of a fresh asphalt driveway, no less :)

Igor Rabinowitz
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Igor Rabinowitz 03/04/13 - 05:02 pm
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You know what I'd ask?

Seriously: What is it most people get wrong about what you do?

And let 'em riff.

Shoot, you got a feature story right there.

Then take him drinking, and around the fourth round of shots say "Those Tahoes, massive money pit amirite?" and hit record on your smart phone.

Pulitzer's in the bank.

i_wonder
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i_wonder 03/04/13 - 05:10 pm
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they'd probably say

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"we were just waiting to gang-shoot a kid with a knife. it was our lucky Sunday"

Cause that's how CPD rolls (according to some on here)

David
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David 03/05/13 - 02:12 pm
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21 feet

I think every law enforcement officer with experience knows that when his/her life is in jeopardy or, as some would say, on the line, there are no rules. Rules are what get you to those situations where your decisions and actions are almost simultaneous. They also know that there are no rules for the effects of having your life in jeopardy or harming or killing someone else has on you. I suspect every Chief knows something about that, too. I hope your interviews at the CPD will be guided by kindness rather than rules.

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