Who owns the road?

Calico Lane - a little known road that runs off of Doy B road off of 64 west is falling in. No one accepts responsibility for it although the county took care of it for years when we had a different judge. Now the county office says its not a county road and never was so they dont take care of it. Its not a county road because the post office doesnt deliver mail there and the post office doesnt deliver mail there because its not a county road. Is it a city road? Its before the landfill. The address is Conway. Should I call the city? Can anyone help me?  Who owns the road? Do I own the road? Me and my neighbors? Its been a public road in the past. Is it a private road now? Where do I go for answers?  Any ideas?

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alrightythen
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alrightythen 03/24/10 - 09:48 am
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is this the..

little dirt road that used to lead to a transmission shop, and a house with pretty peacocks?

that is def in the city limits, so i would give them a call, and then, since i have learned it sometimes takes a while for them to move, i would keep calling until they are tired of hearing you call and it gets fixed...just because it is a dirt road doesnt mean the city can just ignore it...if they dont wanna take care of it..they shoudl have paved it a long time ago..i mean, people do live down there..not many, but they do..

SWIBC
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SWIBC 03/24/10 - 10:41 am
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Go to Tax Assessor and look

Go to Tax Assessor and look up parcels, the first 360 ft to the south would be considered City but after that it is all in the County, but there is no R-O-W in the area, so may not be considered a Public Road, but it is mainly a county road.

just_trying_to_survive
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just_trying_to_survive 03/24/10 - 10:52 am
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Not City

According to the City map of Conway online, your road is just outside the city limits of Conway, but that does not necessarily make it County Property either. Just because it might have been maintained, or bladed by a road grader in the past, does not make it County Property. They have been know to do a courtesy grade on occasion, but not law. As to who the road belongs to, it is a good possilbity it belongs to the individual owners that live down that road. and is the responsiblity of the land owners to keep the road up.

I live right out side the city limits (County) but the road I live down belongs to me, along with five other families, it is our responsiblity to take care of it. It is out of the City or County's hands to care for it. Just because a mailman goes down the road, or a school bus drives down it doesn't make it one or the other either. The mailman drives down my road. My land description shows my property going to the middle of the road. Check you land deed. This might answer some of your questions.

I hope this helps.

ucantbserious
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ucantbserious 03/25/10 - 09:58 am
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Taxes

Do you pay taxes to the City of Conway. I know for years that Doy B Road was outsiede of the city limits but I understand that it is now in the city limits. If that is the case, then you would be recieving a tax bill from the city for FD, PD, parks, municipal, animal shelter, etc.

Faulkner
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Faulkner 03/25/10 - 11:00 am
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You better hope

You better hope it's a county road. The city seems to be out of money, I doubt you'll get much help from them.

countrygurl
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countrygurl 03/25/10 - 03:13 pm
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Calico Ln

Calico Ln is listed as a City of Conway road. You can go to the City of Conway's website, look under City of Conway Map Book.
CITY OF CONWAY MAPBOOK INDEX
CALICO LN: 10B1
CALLOWAY DR: 16A1,

just_trying_to_survive
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just_trying_to_survive 03/26/10 - 09:03 am
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City of Conway Mapbook Index

If you notice, Acklin Gap Road, Beaverfork Rd, are also on that list of roads, and we all know those are not in the city limits of Conway and therefore not taken care of by the City Street Dept. I'm sure there are other roads on that list as well that are clearly County Roads and/or Private roads. Every Road has to have a name for 911 purposes regardless of the situation. That doesn't make it belong to the City or County. Calico is one that is right on the border of the city limits, and you will probably have to go to the City Office and see if it is their road. But from the Google map I looked at, it is outside the blue area of the city limits.

If it is indeed the property of the owner's, as I believe to be the case here, we can't expect the City or the County to take care of something that is not theirs to take care of. There have been several lawsuits filed over touching people's (Private) roads in the past. Unless ALL the landowners that live on that road wish to turn ownership over to the the city or county (whichever be the case here), they must first bring the road up to certain conditions, before either the city or county can take it in. Also if there is not mail delivery down that road, the Postal Service will/can NOT Request a courtesy road grade from either.

I wish you luck.

just_trying_to_survive
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just_trying_to_survive 03/26/10 - 09:31 am
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Link to the exact page of city map

http://www.conwayplanning.org/maps/PDF/Current-Conway-Street-Map-Book.pdf

Here is a link to the city map go to page 19 of 63. It shows a very small section of Calico lane being inside the city limits, but most is not.

I hope this helps.

HawgnDos
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HawgnDos 03/26/10 - 05:12 pm
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I would print copies

of the page with Calico Ln from the pdf above and go talk to the County Judge (Preston Scroggins) and then the Mayor and tell them to duke it out as to which one has responsibility for the road, but please just fix it. If it does not get fixed, or you do not get a satisfactory answer, within one week, call the local news outlets. Do not try KTHV Ch. 11 though. Tax Townsell's former right hand man and now the head of something here (Conway A&P, or Economic development???), Jamie Gates, is the hubbie of Melissa Dunbar-Gates, reporter for Today'sTHV.

just_trying_to_survive
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just_trying_to_survive 03/30/10 - 03:53 pm
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to HawgnDos

You seem to forget one other possibity here HawgnDos. It is a great possiblity that the road doesn't belong to either the City or the County! So what good would it be to contact the News. It's not newsworthy.

Why do so many people assume ALL roads have to belong to either. There are several, I repeat, several roads in the county and state that belong to the land owners, because several years ago, the land owners didn't want to give part of their land, or the right of way over to the county or city. Or in some cases, Certain people that made up new subdivisions didn't bring it into the county or city code, and therefore cannot be brought in unless it meets code. Now years later, the people that have inherited that land in one way or another seem to expect other people to take care of their road.

When I bought my land some twenty years ago, I knew it didn't belong to the county, and therefore never expected or will expect the county to take care of it. I don't understand why people want to criticize the city or the county for following the rules. There have been more road improvement under the present County administration than ever before. And I am 100% sure that if the road were a county road, it would be fixed too. If either City or County were to do anything to that road and it didn't belong to them, would it not be considered trespassing?

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